Dragans 250g reef build

Sirius76

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Hi all,

First off, Happy New Year!

Being new here, I figured I'd give a brief history/bio. My name is Dragan and live on the NW side of Chicago. My main interests are astronomy (very active with two websites of my own in the hobby) golf and general aviation. I'm new on this forum but not so new to reef keeping, thought I've been out of the hobby for nearly 8 years. My wife and I recently purchased a 250g rimless from DAS while at this years show in Schaumburg. (You may have seen it on display. They offered it at a steal to avoid taking it back to Dallas so we jumped on it. Though I wasn't there to buy a tank, its hard for me to pass on a deal when they come along) This 250 will be my 2nd reef. We used to have a 65g bowfront reef that was mostly fish with some soft corals. We gave away the 65 when we moved and bought our current home. While planning the layout of our basement we set aside an area for a 225g. Since this 250 has the same footprint as the planned 225, we decided to go bigger.

The last couple months have been spent researching and planning. We're in no real hurry getting this tank up and running since we want to take our time and do it right. I've been slowly gathering the necessary components and getting things ready for the rock cycle. I don't anticipate having our first residents until about spring. Before I get to the pics and descriptions I wanna get this out to the group. As I said, I've been out of the hobby for quite some time. Ive been learning that alot has changed. I'm also learning there are more than one way to skin a cat so suggestions are encouraged. I'm trying to do this build the right way but I'm sure I'll make mistakes. Thats where your collective knowledge comes in, I encourage feedback and suggestions. Ok, now to the good stuff......

As of right now the plan is to have mostly fish with a mix of soft and hard corals. If i had to guess, I'd say I'm planning a medium bioload.

The planned hardware so far will include (though not all these are purchased as of yet)

250 g reef ready rimless 72x28x28 w/ Herbie overflow (have)
Trigger Systems Ruby 36s sump w/fuge (have)
RO Regal 200sss protein skimmer (have)
Neptune systems Apex Gold (be here monday)
Emperor Aquatics 40w UV (undecided but will probably go with it. My wife is demanding the clearest water possible)
Kessil 360w lighting (x2) (decided on just haven't ordered)
Powerheads will probably be the new Gyre. Just seems to be exactly what I want.
undecided heaters though it'll probably be the eheimm jagers
an ATO (undecided on brand)
calc reactor (undecided on brand or if i'll even need one right away)

I know theres more but I can't think of them at the moment

So far, my only real concern is the size of the sump. This build is my first tank with a sump as my last 65g didn't have one (it had an intank sump of sorts that worked fine for the load we had) Since i've already modified the ruby to accomadate my 1.5" overflows, I can't return it. So I'm thinking Ill stick with this one until I absolutely need to get a bigger one. DAS gave me a sump with the tank but I didn't like its design. Its a wet/dry type tank with a very small skimmer section. I didn't like the idea of a wet/dry nor the fact that I'd have to undersize my skimmer, neither of which I was comfortable with.

And here are some pics:

Here's the tank the night we got it home. I got the tank, stand and sump with return and various plumbing parts for a song. The entire build will be in the basement of our home on the foundation. No worries in regards to weight.
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Below is the tank in its final spot. Here you can see that the stand hasn't been finished in oak yet.
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(our son Lil D for scale :lol:)

And here is the tank with the stand finished. We used the same oak and stain as the rest of our basement to match our trim and bar. Being such a large tank in a relatively small area we needed it all to look good. We're very happy with the end product. You'll also notice I painted the far pane of glass in black. I figured noone would be looking at it from that side and it may help in disguising black powerheads.
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A buddy in Iowa City IA owns a telescope and mirror making company. He has all the coolest machines. He was able to fabricate a custom acrylic lid for our tank. I don't know if I'll absoultely need it yet, but I thought it may be good insurance in regards to jumpers and evaporation. Yes the tank is rimless by design but this lid sits atop the wire bracing and below the top of the tank. You really can't even see it when viewed from the front.
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Lastly, here is our skimmer. The Reef Octopus Regal 200sss. I've read many good things so I figured it was a good value for its price.
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So thats it for now. I'm currently trying to plumb the sump. If I run into any concerns, I'll be sure to reach out.

Any and all suggestions and feedback is encouraged!! I look forward to this and the interactions with you all will make it just that much more fun!

Thanks to all!

-Dragan
 
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Welcome aboard and very nice looking start. Love how you're taking time to research :D

A couple comments;
I'm not sure how a UV is going to help clarify the water. UV is controversial for use in a reef as it kills the food the corals need when used at a rate to be useful to kill disease. If you are looking for a way to polish your water I'd go with filter socks and/or ozone.

Also you haven't mentioned a chiller. With our summers and a full acrylic top you are likely going to have a heat problem. The sump isn't going to give enough surface area for good evaporation.


Looking forward to your build updates.
 
Welcome aboard and very nice looking start. Love how you're taking time to research :D

I'm in no rush!! I'm usually a perfectionist when it comes to other things so I figured I'd better not start being lazy when it came to such a big build!

A couple comments;
I'm not sure how a UV is going to help clarify the water. UV is controversial for use in a reef as it kills the food the corals need when used at a rate to be useful to kill disease. If you are looking for a way to polish your water I'd go with filter socks and/or ozone.

From what I understand through my research, (and never owning a UV sterilizer) aside of disease prevention, it does help with water clarity. Doesn't it help with keeping the water clarity free of the algae that can interfere with clarity? My sump does have a sock and I didn't put too much thought into ozone reading about the possible "dangers" associated with it.

Also you haven't mentioned a chiller. With our summers and a full acrylic top you are likely going to have a heat problem. The sump isn't going to give enough surface area for good evaporation.

Right now, I'm hoping I won't need a chiller. Our basement ALWAYS runs cool, almost uncomfortably sometimes. The lid is removable and so it won't be too much a pain if I need to ditch it in favor of cooling/evaporation. I figured I'll just keep an eye on temps and make the decision later on a chiller. Yes I'll get on if I need it but I'm just trying to hold off until I know for sure.

Looking forward to your build updates.

Thanks! I look forward to sharing it!
 
You probably won't need a chiller in basement. Your heaters might even be working non-stop and you might hate your electric bill. You will probably need a de-humidifier if you don't use one already, or you will end up with moldy/musty basement from all the moisture.
 
You probably won't need a chiller in basement. Your heaters might even be working non-stop and you might hate your electric bill. You will probably need a de-humidifier if you don't use one already, or you will end up with moldy/musty basement from all the moisture.

Two things the wife and I have actually discussed
 
Welcome aboard and very nice looking start. Love how you're taking time to research :D

A couple comments;
I'm not sure how a UV is going to help clarify the water. UV is controversial for use in a reef as it kills the food the corals need when used at a rate to be useful to kill disease. If you are looking for a way to polish your water I'd go with filter socks and/or ozone.

Also you haven't mentioned a chiller. With our summers and a full acrylic top you are likely going to have a heat problem. The sump isn't going to give enough surface area for good evaporation.


Looking forward to your build updates.
Don't know much about leds but isn't 2 kessil a360s not enough light
 
Don't know much about leds but isn't 2 kessil a360s not enough light

To be honest, I hope it is!! (We're going to start with 2 units and get a third if we feel we need it)

The reviews have been fantastic and I'm hoping they'll be sufficient for the type of reef we're after. If I was heavy/only SPS I would probably shy away from them in favor of MH's. But having a few SPS higher in the tank should work out fine with a few Kessils.

Another note, I'm striving for maximum shimmer and the Kessils seem to fit that bill the best. Plus the clean look they offer the rimless design should be a nice match
 
You probably won't need a chiller in basement. Your heaters might even be working non-stop and you might hate your electric bill. You will probably need a de-humidifier if you don't use one already, or you will end up with moldy/musty basement from all the moisture.
Do you think the 2 kessil will be enough for this big of a tank?
 
I just thought it would be darker kind of shadowed in the middle and on the sides since it's such a long tank
 
If the shadowing is too much or any SPS frags up high aren't happy, we're more than prepared to get 3. I just wanna try 2 to start
 
From what I understand through my research, (and never owning a UV sterilizer) aside of disease prevention, it does help with water clarity. Doesn't it help with keeping the water clarity free of the algae that can interfere with clarity? My sump does have a sock and I didn't put too much thought into ozone reading about the possible "dangers" associated with it.

Right now, I'm hoping I won't need a chiller. Our basement ALWAYS runs cool, almost uncomfortably sometimes. The lid is removable and so it won't be too much a pain if I need to ditch it in favor of cooling/evaporation. I figured I'll just keep an eye on temps and make the decision later on a chiller. Yes I'll get on if I need it but I'm just trying to hold off until I know for sure.

I've run and still have a UV on my tank. I needed it to clear up a bacteria bloom from leaving the tank empty too long when setting it up. Since, I've turned it on here and there but see no difference. I do run ozone and do see benefit from it, there is never any yellowing to the water. Combining a bare bottom tank with regular use of a power head to blow the detritus off the rocks and filter socks to catch the stuff keep the water clear. Ozone does have dangers if not properly neutralized with carbon and a little goes a long way.

Nice plan for cooling. My solution ended up being a room AC unit, the once quite chilly basement is always comfortably warm after adding the 110g tank. The room AC unit send the the humidity and hot air outside as compared to just adding a chiller.
 
I've run and still have a UV on my tank. I needed it to clear up a bacteria bloom from leaving the tank empty too long when setting it up. Since, I've turned it on here and there but see no difference. I do run ozone and do see benefit from it, there is never any yellowing to the water. Combining a bare bottom tank with regular use of a power head to blow the detritus off the rocks and filter socks to catch the stuff keep the water clear. Ozone does have dangers if not properly neutralized with carbon and a little goes a long way.

Nice plan for cooling. My solution ended up being a room AC unit, the once quite chilly basement is always comfortably warm after adding the 110g tank. The room AC unit send the the humidity and hot air outside as compared to just adding a chiller.

Thanks Josh. I'll be sure to keep you posted. I'm still in the air about ozone, probably because I know so little about it. Then again, UV is still even debatable. I thought I wanted it but I'll have to do more reading before I pull the trigger. One way our tanks will differ is sand. We won't do a bare bottom tank. We love our sand sifters and the look so BB is out.

As far as cooling, I'll just have to wait and see.
 
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