LED fixture...

Customer service is bad..well..IMO..they try'd to charge half price to replace a unit..and on another they charge me $40 to send a power supply from China.
 
I've been building LED Fixtures for over seven years....Yes the price has come down...But

Chinese Imports are like a box of chocolates...You do not know what your getting....

It it Class II under European Standards for safty??? 24VDC at the Fixture.

Are the Components UL Listed??? Or Even CE????

Are you OK with not UL or CE Listed electronic components without a serial# or label???

The list goes on and the bottom line is you pay for what you get....

I could not imaging a person with thousands in high end frags trusting a Chinese Import to provide consistent and reliable light for growth...

Bill

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I've been building LED Fixtures for over seven years....Yes the price has come down...But

Chinese Imports are like a box of chocolates...You do not know what your getting....

Is it Class II under European Standards for safty??? 24VDC at the Fixture.

Are the Components UL Listed??? Or Even CE????

Are you OK with not UL or CE Listed electronic components without a serial# or label???

The list goes on and the bottom line is you pay for what you get....

I could not imaging a person with thousands in high end frags trusting a Chinese Import to provide consistent and reliable light for growth...

Bill
ReefLEDLights
 
I could not imaging a person with thousands in high end frags trusting a Chinese Import to provide consistent and reliable light for growth...

Can you imagine me? I can. Thousands of $ of high-end frags/Chinese imports for light. Perfectly comfortable. Maybe you can't imagine yourself with Chinese lights, but others do just fine.
 
I've been building LED Fixtures for over seven years....Yes the price has come down...But

Chinese Imports are like a box of chocolates...You do not know what your getting....

It it Class II under European Standards for safty??? 24VDC at the Fixture.

Are the Components UL Listed??? Or Even CE????

Are you OK with not UL or CE Listed electronic components without a serial# or label???

The list goes on and the bottom line is you pay for what you get....

I could not imaging a person with thousands in high end frags trusting a Chinese Import to provide consistent and reliable light for growth...

Bill

- - - Updated - - -

I've been building LED Fixtures for over seven years....Yes the price has come down...But

Chinese Imports are like a box of chocolates...You do not know what your getting....

Is it Class II under European Standards for safty??? 24VDC at the Fixture.

Are the Components UL Listed??? Or Even CE????

Are you OK with not UL or CE Listed electronic components without a serial# or label???

The list goes on and the bottom line is you pay for what you get....

I could not imaging a person with thousands in high end frags trusting a Chinese Import to provide consistent and reliable light for growth...

Bill
ReefLEDLights

Can you imagine me? I can. Thousands of $ of high-end frags/Chinese imports for light. Perfectly comfortable. Maybe you can't imagine yourself with Chinese lights, but others do just fine.

I am with you [MENTION=1455]Sawdonkey[/MENTION], I used Chinese leds for so long and have no problem at all, save ton of money. Some of my frags sold from $600-$800. My corals all happy with Chinese Leds. I heard people said "They are all made-in China"..is it right :) ?
 
I am used Chinese Leds before for my 375 gals tank no problem at all with those lights
One time and one light fixture has problem with power supplies but company sent me brand new power supply to United from China for free to replace its
Well so far Chinese leds is good but I switched to t5 now but some corner in my current tank still having leds lol.
 
I'm an original purchaser of reefledlights.com fixtures, both 8 years or more ago, and 6 months ago, more specific, the new XTC series. They are awesome. They are expensive. They are quality. They aren't for everyone. They have MUCH more POWER than most. With that power, they also have the spectrum to back up. It's what I needed with a 30" deep tank. I've grown sps, still have a few. Sps and sand, no prob. SPS color up and grow different under different lights, not a rocket science secret. Cheap eBay fixtures appear to also work, but can't hold a candle to the power XTC puts out. It's a BIG difference... Look at the numbers, distances, electric consumption, and spectrum. Seems like most corals will grow with any ol' led fixture, but spectrum and intensity will change the end outcome, months or years down the line. How can one know what would look different with another light? Water conditions and flow also play a role. Many are happy with cheap led fixtures, and that's cool. I'm saying, I'm EXTREMELY happy with XTC fixtures. I won't need to change for years, if ever. Bashing Bill for his fixtures because of price, and that's the ONLY hurdle I see, not worth writing them off. It's a well built fixture, capable of powering. Not to mention supporting a local, which seems most are ready to "chuck under the bus" because of costs alone....

Saw donkey, Mai, and others, you guys have AWESOME corals. I've seen your tanks. That's great that your corals do well with different fixtures. I've enjoyed your pics. I've seen a lot of tanks with great results with cheap LED lights. I'd just be careful to write off XCT lights, they really are nice.
 
I'm an original purchaser of reefledlights.com fixtures, both 8 years or more ago, and 6 months ago, more specific, the new XTC series. They are awesome. They are expensive. They are quality. They aren't for everyone. They have MUCH more POWER than most. With that power, they also have the spectrum to back up. It's what I needed with a 30" deep tank. I've grown sps, still have a few. Sps and sand, no prob. SPS color up and grow different under different lights, not a rocket science secret. Cheap eBay fixtures appear to also work, but can't hold a candle to the power XTC puts out. It's a BIG difference... Look at the numbers, distances, electric consumption, and spectrum. Seems like most corals will grow with any ol' led fixture, but spectrum and intensity will change the end outcome, months or years down the line. How can one know what would look different with another light? Water conditions and flow also play a role. Many are happy with cheap led fixtures, and that's cool. I'm saying, I'm EXTREMELY happy with XTC fixtures. I won't need to change for years, if ever. Bashing Bill for his fixtures because of price, and that's the ONLY hurdle I see, not worth writing them off. It's a well built fixture, capable of powering. Not to mention supporting a local, which seems most are ready to "chuck under the bus" because of costs alone....

Saw donkey, Mai, and others, you guys have AWESOME corals. I've seen your tanks. That's great that your corals do well with different fixtures. I've enjoyed your pics. I've seen a lot of tanks with great results with cheap LED lights. I'd just be careful to write off XCT lights, they really are nice.

I'm not bashing any of the high end lights. They're probably all fine. The only bashing going on is a certain LED light company owner that bashes Chinese fixtures all of the time (both here and on national forums). Maybe that person shouldn't write off the Chinese lights that so many of us use and do so successfully.

Yeah, they are made cheaply. No, they don't have CREE or other high end diodes. No they aren't as powerful some other lights. No, I can't do a thunderstorm effect. But, they are 1/4 the price and grow coral well.

And by the way, I can and do grow SPS on the bottom of my 30 inch deep tank. Do you really need all of that power when most people don't even turn the lights up to full power?

As far as spectrum changing over time....who cares. If I want to, I can solder in all new diodes every year for $50 per fixture. However I won't, because I don't look at all of this with such precision. Or, I could re-buy all of my fixtures and still be in for 1/2 that cost of high end fixtures.

For me, it's simple....I'm not going to spend $800 when I can get the same (or at least satisfying) results for $150.
 
For me, it's simple....I'm not going to spend $800 when I can get the same (or at least satisfying) results for $150.[/QUOTE]
I AGREE..
 
I'm an original purchaser of reefledlights.com fixtures, both 8 years or more ago, and 6 months ago, more specific, the new XTC series. They are awesome. They are expensive. They are quality. They aren't for everyone. They have MUCH more POWER than most. With that power, they also have the spectrum to back up. It's what I needed with a 30" deep tank. I've grown sps, still have a few. Sps and sand, no prob. SPS color up and grow different under different lights, not a rocket science secret. Cheap eBay fixtures appear to also work, but can't hold a candle to the power XTC puts out. It's a BIG difference... Look at the numbers, distances, electric consumption, and spectrum. Seems like most corals will grow with any ol' led fixture, but spectrum and intensity will change the end outcome, months or years down the line. How can one know what would look different with another light? Water conditions and flow also play a role. Many are happy with cheap led fixtures, and that's cool. I'm saying, I'm EXTREMELY happy with XTC fixtures. I won't need to change for years, if ever. Bashing Bill for his fixtures because of price, and that's the ONLY hurdle I see, not worth writing them off. It's a well built fixture, capable of powering. Not to mention supporting a local, which seems most are ready to "chuck under the bus" because of costs alone....

Saw donkey, Mai, and others, you guys have AWESOME corals. I've seen your tanks. That's great that your corals do well with different fixtures. I've enjoyed your pics. I've seen a lot of tanks with great results with cheap LED lights. I'd just be careful to write off XCT lights, they really are nice.

I'm not bashing any of the high end lights. They're probably all fine. The only bashing going on is a certain LED light company owner that bashes Chinese fixtures all of the time (both here and on national forums). Maybe that person shouldn't write off the Chinese lights that so many of us use and do so successfully.

Yeah, they are made cheaply. No, they don't have CREE or other high end diodes. No they aren't as powerful some other lights. No, I can't do a thunderstorm effect. But, they are 1/4 the price and grow coral well.

And by the way, I can and do grow SPS on the bottom of my 30 inch deep tank. Do you really need all of that power when most people don't even turn the lights up to full power?

As far as spectrum changing over time....who cares. If I want to, I can solder in all new diodes every year for $50 per fixture. However I won't, because I don't look at all of this with such precision. Or, I could re-buy all of my fixtures and still be in for 1/2 that cost of high end fixtures.

For me, it's simple....I'm not going to spend $800 when I can get the same (or at least satisfying) results for $150.

Taylor T,
This is my original post. I post this for some reefers can't spend much money to high end or high price light and those Chinese Lights are ok to grow corals even better grow. I am not bashing any light here and Bill he the one jump into my post bashing the Chinese this Chinese that. Did I mention about XCT light or any light in any of my post?
Remember one thing, any reefer has his/her own opinion to run his/her reef tank about salt, pump, light...blah blah blah....Like [MENTION=1455]Sawdonkey[/MENTION] said, he bashing those Chinese light all over in all other forums, even he said his light better than the Radion light some forum I read (I am not sure about it so no commend for me). As a Mod and he is sponsor this forum, I respect him but he need to respect my opinion too..Am I correct?
Thanks
 
Gosh. Sorry. I didn't realize there was such an anti (inset non mentioned reef company here) movement. I thought I was helping the community by contributing my own personal experience and opinion, but I see it's more that this. I know there are tons of lights that work. I didn't realize there was a problem with them, I'm not on the forums all the time. From here on out, I won't participate here. Mia, sorry for intruding.
 
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