vodka dosing? vinager dosing?

xj_matt

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So I haven been reading up on this today what are the pros and cons of it should it be something that I need to start?
Can you guys help me understand the concept behind this type of dosing. As of right now all I dose is ALK and CA I keep my ALK around 8-9 and CA is around 500ppm:stupid::banghead::info:
 
I'll just say this. High nutrients = brown SPS and less growth. No nutrients = white skeletons. Don't get caught up in the ULNS hype. Those tanks may look great if kept perfect but are always on the edge of death by starvation. Jason Fox and Adam from Battlecorals don't run ULNS, and look at their stuff. I just figured the same thing out the hard way after believing the ULNS hype for years. I actually dose nitrate now!
 
I've been running Vodka/MB7 dosing recently. I've been reefing for 9 years and most of that time has been spent in SPS. In my history with SPS I have only dosed vodka twice, and both times were temporary in order to get nutrients under control.

I've had great success with ULNS but like others have said you're riding a tight line, and the slightest deviation can lead to catastrophic failure. I just recently went through one of these such failures. ULNS can be successful but it requires a LOT of time and, IMO, top notch equipment.

I tend to overstock my tanks. So, I do like to vodka dose when my system is heavily stocked. If you are going to vodka dose it is imperative that you have an oversized skimmer. Vodka dosing works by allowing an organic food source for nitrifying bacteria. The increased nitrifying bacteria then theoretically should process more phosphate and nitrogen compounds as their population continues to grow. Eventually the bulk of your systems phosphate and nitrogen compounds are present in bacterial biomass which your skimmer would remove.

So, if your skimmer is undersized you won't efficiently be able to remove the phosphate/nitrogen loaded bacterial masses. Secondly, carbon dosing can lead to oxygen snuffing. So an oversized skimmer helps supplement any depleted oxygen.

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I've been running Vodka/MB7 dosing recently. I've been reefing for 9 years and most of that time has been spent in SPS. In my history with SPS I have only dosed vodka twice, and both times were temporary in order to get nutrients under control.

I've had great success with ULNS but like others have said you're riding a tight line, and the slightest deviation can lead to catastrophic failure. I just recently went through one of these such failures. ULNS can be successful but it requires a LOT of time and, IMO, top notch equipment.

I tend to overstock my tanks. So, I do like to vodka dose when my system is heavily stocked. If you are going to vodka dose it is imperative that you have an oversized skimmer. Vodka dosing works by allowing an organic food source for nitrifying bacteria. The increased nitrifying bacteria then theoretically should process more phosphate and nitrogen compounds as their population continues to grow. Eventually the bulk of your systems phosphate and nitrogen compounds are present in bacterial biomass which your skimmer would remove.

So, if your skimmer is undersized you won't efficiently be able to remove the phosphate/nitrogen loaded bacterial masses. Secondly, carbon dosing can lead to oxygen snuffing. So an oversized skimmer helps supplement any depleted oxygen.

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ty for your imput and help it seems like something i need to stay away from i am woring on a sps/zoa tank i love this site every one here s so grate i am happy i have found this page
 
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