What, other than reefs have you guys kept? * Picture Heavy*

Joe Lydon

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I've been into animals since the day I could read. I've owned everything from ants to alligators. I was heavy into breeding boa constrictor imperator morphs around 2004-2007. I was keeping over 150 boas at any given time. I produced my first Motley litter back in 2006 and ended up making $25,000 off of 10 babies. I built a pretty large collection from there and the rest was history.

Here are a few pictures of things I've kept. Some of these photos date back to Sony Mavica 1.3mp cameras, so bare with me!

2003 Triple heterozygous striped Sunglow female. Simple recessive pattern/color and Co dominant color mutation. She was $3500 back in the day.
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2006 Albino Jungle male.. Simple recessive color mutation and Co dominant pattern/color mutation. Super Jungles are still my favorite boa morph to date. $6000 back in the day..
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2006 Anerythristic female. Not too pricey, $1000, but she was one of the best representations for the trait. Truely lacking red. Erythristic means red, the "An" prefix means "no". Mix it with albino and you get a "Snow boa" (white)
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2004 Arabesque male Het albino. Arabesque is a pattern morph, identified by thin, interconnecting saddles, lateral striping and laddertails. This pattern is passed on to generally 50% of the offspring.

2004 Hypo het albino aka dh Sunglow male with a bit of Hogg island locality mixed in. This was my fun snake! He was always aggressive and fun to take out when I had company. I would put him on the floor and let him take strikes at me. He was my first expensive snake at $2500 out of pocket money.
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My money maker. 2004 Male Motley with one of his offspring. Paid $8500 for the sire in 2005.
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2004 Super Ghost male. Dominant Hypo Anerythristic boa. Still the best representation to date of the morph.
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One of my Emerald tree boas, "Lucky".. Check out the 4 leaf clover scalation on his head.
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This is how snakes "get it on"..

Motley on a big female!
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Super Ghost courting a 50lb anerythristic female..
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Pay day... My first litter of Motleys in 2006. $25,000 in this picture. I have the paypal transaction history to prove it!
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Really pink hypo out of the last litter I produced.
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Blizzard leopard geckos from the breeding project I helped my kids with.
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Daughter with her Woma python.
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Part of my breeder setup.
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Our gator.. Rather not say his name...
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6' Varanus Albugularis. He made a mess with rats.
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Asian water monitor. He was great!
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My 190 from 2001 with my all time, favorite fish!
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Our prarie dogs. Peewee and Doogie.
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Our dogs!
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Well, that's all I care to post. I have a million more pics and kept and bred 10x's more species.

I almost bought a mountain lion cub from a friend's store in Indiana. I was playing with it, but my judgment got the best of me!

What have you guys kept or still keep?
 
Amazing what those snakes go for, never would of thought they sold for that much and I get happy when I sell a $10 frag lol, I'm in the wrong hobby lol. I also had a couple gators about a foot long, savanah monitor , tarantulas, bearded dragons , sugar gliders , sorry no pics.
 
Amazing what those snakes go for, never would of thought they sold for that much and I get happy when I sell a $10 frag lol, I'm in the wrong hobby lol. I also had a couple gators about a foot long, savanah monitor , tarantulas, bearded dragons , sugar gliders , sorry no pics.

Yeah, there are easier ways to make money than frags...! I was thinkin about making a comeback with ball pythons. They are still selling strong and come in just about as many colors and patterns as corals!

i have a juvi panther chameleon, other than that i have a mini schnauzer.

I love chams! I would have bred them, if it weren't for the crazy long incubation period! That boy is sweet!
 
Yeah, there are easier ways to make money than frags...! I was thinkin about making a comeback with ball pythons. They are still selling strong and come in just about as many colors and patterns as corals

Not in the hobby to make money , but it is nice to offset the hundreds we spend on our reefs.
 
I dabbled in ball pythons in 2006-8. Had a few nice ones at the time. Albino, Het Albino, Piebalds, Spiders, Pastel, Cinnamon, mojave and a few others. I lost my whole collection due to boids. I was successful with two animals, but let someone else hatch em out to find all regs and pastels. Hmmm. At the time I was shooting for bumblebees. I should've gotten atleast a bunch of spiders... Idk. Long time ago and I don't feel like doing a punnett square. I think I got scammed. Soon after I brought home a snake that showed signs of boids. 2 days later it died. Soon after all my animals showed similar traits. Spiral neck,twisting, loose jaw, and weird behavior. After all stopped eating and 3-6 months past. I'm losing them 1-2 week apart. I decided to humanly euthanize the 8 I had left. I was totally heart broken and still miss them to this day. I had over $8,000... Made nothing. I bleached and sanitized my equipment and gave it away.

Moved onto leopard geckos. You want a lil reptile to breed morphs with... There you go. Awesome personalities and easy husbandry. Put a few females with a cool male and bam. Eggs. Hatch and sell to buy a more expensive one. I had all kinds. Albino this and that, raptors, tangerines, and some others. I used to carry my head hitch** around with me.

I wish I had pictures. My old computer that has since crashed. Hard drive is in a box somewhere. :(
 
Me never. I was good about washing hands before and after, but rarely in between cleaning. This was my biggest mistake. I never held them for fun. Had a 9ft red tail. She was fun. Never pooped on me. Lol. My blood pythons were soo mean. I wasn't scared of them until I was latched onto by one of my bloods. She held on for 15 min till my bro came hone to help me. Had to use butterknife to pull her teeth out. I did have to go on antibiotics for that one. I was bitten badly by my leopard gecko once. Took my fingertip. Lil cricket chomping jaws got me.
 
I dabbled in ball pythons in 2006-8.

I hear you on the breeder loans. I fronted an adult female hypo when I started out. She died after dropping her litter and I never saw one single neonate. After that, I decided to go solo. Breeding reptiles is really fun, especially when you have kids who get involved. My daughter bred kingsnakes and hatched out eggs on her own, when she was 8.

When you say "boids", I assume you mean inclusion body disease aka IBD. Boids is short for boidae, it's a taxonomic term used for boas. Some people call pythons boids, which is acceptable, but they actually belong to the pythonidae family. Yeah, it will wipe out a python collection fairly quick. In boas, it can stay asymptomatic for years. Boa breeders used to joke around about using male ball pythons as IBD detection kits.

As for the bites, I couldn't tell you how many times I've been tagged. It's the same deal every time, a high pitch scream like a little girl followed with some profanity! I once had a tooth heal over with skin on my arm, only to pop back out like a blackhead zit a month later!
 
Skunkerx has a lot of snakes. Idk how many right now by a lot and a couple bug ones


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I ment IBD. It's been a while. Pulling teeth out sucks. I've had many snakes go postal after a quick whiff of frozen rats. Big ones hurt, but lil gut scare you. I got bit in the face by a stupid little hypo boa @ reptile house. Dude was handing it over me to a customer. **** snake grabbed my right cheek. I still have a lil scare. I'd like to get back into it, but its big money. More than reef. I know that. Although $3k bumble bee then now cost only 5-1k depending on color and genes.
 
I ment IBD. It's been a while. Pulling teeth out sucks. I've had many snakes go postal after a quick whiff of frozen rats. Big ones hurt, but lil gut scare you. I got bit in the face by a stupid little hypo boa @ reptile house. Dude was handing it over me to a customer. **** snake grabbed my right cheek. I still have a lil scare. I'd like to get back into it, but its big money. More than reef. I know that. Although $3k bumble bee then now cost only 5-1k depending on color and genes.

That's the best part! I remember when mojaves were 25k each and Leucistics were 200k at the NARBC. Now you can produce a leucy with a few hundred dollars worth of ingredients. All of the base morphs are affordable now. You can buy a small army and produce all of your multigene animals. I have been debating a male butter spinner and a few super pastel and butter females. It's crazy how pieds have held value, still $800+! The prices on most are at an enjoyable level now.
 
That's the best part! I remember when mojaves were 25k each and Leucistics were 200k at the NARBC. Now you can produce a leucy with a few hundred dollars worth of ingredients. All of the base morphs are affordable now. You can buy a small army and produce all of your multigene animals. I have been debating a male butter spinner and a few super pastel and butter females. It's crazy how pieds have held value, still $800+! The prices on most are at an enjoyable level now.

Tell me about it. I loved my pied. I wish I still had my animals. I'd be a lil better off and maybe have a store. I'd like to get into boas. I'd be interested in a nice hypo. My gf wouldn't like it much. A nice ball python may be in future. Just a pet tho.
 
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