DansReef New 180 Reef

Dans.

Ive heard many say letuce does nothing but fool the fish that they are eating...in another way to maintain the reef clean. Anyways.

..im dying to see the tank closer.
The photos you put are thumbnails.....

Not even with my mag lense i can zoom to peek.

Ps, the fat fish must be because your using that high calorie salt. Better hope they dont get diabetes with that weight
 
I am not sure I agree. As part of a feeding regiment of frozen, spectrum pellets, nori and other like Rod's... I think feeding Romaine is perfectly fine. They devour it much more than anything else. If it was 100% Romaine.... I would agree...that would not work well for long.

As for better pictures.... I am not sure why I can't seem to post decent size pics. I am going to try it again here and see if this is better...using taptalk this time.

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Well day 10 of going "Dirty" and all I can say.... is .... WTF.... My nitrates have fallen to 2 and my phosphates are down to .8. I am feeding like crazy.... the fish are totally digging this. I am throwing at least the equivalent of 2 cubes of frozen, either romaine or nori on a rotating basis, and then a couple pinches of pellets and the nutrients are falling. The fish are to the point that they are fat and happy and the F'ing Dinos are thumbing their noses...if they had noses....at me. I have event been pouring phyto / photo in.... and nada.... No sign of any algae... there was some light skim on the glass over the weekend...but after cleaning the front off.... now nada.

I know... I know.... It is Murphy's law that when I want to grow the krap I cant seem to do it. Things will probably whip from nothing to a huge bloom overnight... which believe it or not is what I want. With a Naso, Yellow, Tomini and a Fox Face... even if it starts to take off it should be munched down quick. Of course... I have to stop feeding the fat bastards....

So... suggestions? I need to dirty up the water enough to get an algae bloom to occur. I have even seen people dumping their skimmer cups back into their tanks. Since I have literally not run my skimmer in 10 days... I don't have that....

More updates soon. I am going to whip these flipping DINOs ...............
 
You need more day light. My nutrients low, but still get algae to grow with day light LEDs. Not blue ones.


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ColaAddict said:
You need more day light. My nutrients low, but still get algae to grow with day light LEDs. Not blue ones.


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Thanks Nino. I already adjusted the lighting to bring it up to 8 hours and more natural light. We will see if that helps. Of course.... I also get the irony....when you don't want algae to grow the krap grows out of control.....
 
Yeah, its incredibly hard for nitrates or phosphate to rise when you have Dino's. Seems Dino's get to the nutrients before anything else too.

What's are you doing with them by the way? Siphoning into filter sock? Just not disturbing them? Turkey basting?


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This form of Dinos is the kind that is dusty and right now inhabiting the sand. I don't want to disturb. I would siphon...but fresh water is said to help with the bloom. So... right now just going as dirty as I can. The fish are the beneficiaries right now. Fat and happy. Also this form of Dinos is really resilient. So...no doubt they are consuming nutrients. Once algae takes off the theory is they will out compete the Dinos. So goes the theory. We will see.

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I meant siphoning into your filter sock so you don't have to replace the water. Also, with that method, you can take as long as you like.


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By the way, mine used to be long, and stringy, bubbly, and deadly. Now they have turned into the dusty kind like yours.


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I actually had thought of that....but am concerned that since you can strain this variety through a coffee filter and since my sump is in the basement....that it is not real practical.

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DanSreef said:
I actually had thought of that....but am concerned that since you can strain this variety through a coffee filter and since my sump is in the basement....that it is not real practical.
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Something to consider is a vortex diatom filter. http://www.diatomfilter.com/diatom_filters.htm

I've got one in my closet of goodies. It works quite well for vacuuming the tank without having to remove any water. It is a ain in the arse to use, to prime and puts out micro bubbles, but does a good job.
 
So... Decided that the next step for me is to begin siphoning the sand out of the tank....starting with the large concentrations of DINOs that are very apparent. I am going to do it 5 gallon buckets at a time. I just skim anything that looks rustish off the sand....sand included. I know this won't eliminate the DINOs....but maybe it can buy some time and remove a good quantity of the population so that algae can get a hold and hopefully out compete with it.

Now...before others pipe in... I know water changes are no no's with DINOs. I am playing the numbers a bit with hopeful intent. 5 gallons of water....ok maybe 4.75 gallons of water and then sand...taken from the tank is la very low % change over. Maybe... I will do this every day or every couple depending on the Dino population. I have plenty of sand in the tank...maybe this can help.

Josh...I am not sure I will sink more $$$$ for a diatom filter...though very tempting. If I can't get these DINOs under control... I will Nuke the tank. ETR finally erradicated the DINOs with copper.... At this rate for me..... A year after set up... I would rather have a fish only than nothing at all. It changes my plans for the tank quite a bit... But hey... I do enjoy watching my fish... And if it is fish only....new possibilities sure open up. I am not giving up yet... But come January....I am going to start evaluating next steps.

I sure wish someone would come up with something that can erradicate these flipping DINOs. I have a sneaking suspicion that they could make a few bucks.....
 
DanSreef said:
So... Decided that the next step for me is to begin siphoning the sand out of the tank....starting with the large concentrations of DINOs that are very apparent. I am going to do it 5 gallon buckets at a time. I just skim anything that looks rustish off the sand....sand included. I know this won't eliminate the DINOs....but maybe it can buy some time and remove a good quantity of the population so that algae can get a hold and hopefully out compete with it.

Now...before others pipe in... I know water changes are no no's with DINOs. I am playing the numbers a bit with hopeful intent. 5 gallons of water....ok maybe 4.75 gallons of water and then sand...taken from the tank is la very low % change over. Maybe... I will do this every day or every couple depending on the Dino population. I have plenty of sand in the tank...maybe this can help.

Josh...I am not sure I will sink more $$$$ for a diatom filter...though very tempting. If I can't get these DINOs under control... I will Nuke the tank. ETR finally erradicated the DINOs with copper.... At this rate for me..... A year after set up... I would rather have a fish only than nothing at all. It changes my plans for the tank quite a bit... But hey... I do enjoy watching my fish... And if it is fish only....new possibilities sure open up. I am not giving up yet... But come January....I am going to start evaluating next steps.

I sure wish someone would come up with something that can erradicate these flipping DINOs. I have a sneaking suspicion that they could make a few bucks.....
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Without reading the whole thread. Did u try h2o2 dosing and adding more aggressive algae
 
You can have fish only tank but don's copper the tank. It's will stay in the silicon forever and no good for coral if you decide go back for corals again.
 
Worst case scenario couldn't you shut down and run bleach through the tank for a couple days to sterilize everything then start back up from scratch?
 
maidia said:
You can have fish only tank but don's copper the tank. It's will stay in the silicon forever and no good for coral if you decide go back for corals again.
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Eh i dosed copper in my 75 gal least twice even same rocks that r in my tank now corals do fine takes about 6 months of carbon but u can have reef again
 
madjoe said:
Eh i dosed copper in my 75 gal least twice even same rocks that r in my tank now corals do fine takes about 6 months of carbon but u can have reef again
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I just want to recommend it, better than say sorry later. Take it or leave it that OP choice. If you think ok then dose copper in your new 150 gallon now. I been there and none of my snails and corals alive. I never touch the copper again.
 
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