My views on this hobby. Talking points.

I like your points, but I take issue with number 2. Most of the items we're keeping in our tanks are taking lives constantly. Whether it is a Mandarin eating a pod every few minutes or an SPS coral fishing plankton out of the water. I can't keep alive every little piece of SPS that falls off, and to be honest I'm not going to try. Every step and breath I take I'm killing millions of tiny creatures. Does it suddenly become my job to keep it alive when I can see it with my eyes?
 
I agree for the most part with many of those points. My biggest stickler is with 5 & 6.

When noobs come to me I try to be as gentle as possible while getting the point across. It really annoys me when a more seasoned reefer gets aggravated and annoyed with someone new to the hobby and starts lashing out. There's really no need to be condescending or a tool because you've "been there" and "done that". The noob may not be a chemist so he may not immediately understand the relationship between calcium, magnesium and alkalinity. That noob may not totally understand the nitrification process, and at times I have to google to make sure I mean nitrates instead of nitrites or vice versa. We’re all at different levels in the hobby and we should use these opportunities to help educate those who are less experienced but still thirsty to learn.

Some of us have more pricier and rare stuff, but that does not make you any better than the guy with a tank full of xenia and blue cloves. Our end goal is always the same; to have the best tank for US. That may not be the best tank for me or the next guy, but as long as it's the best for THAT reefer, it's all good. My buying a $300 frag does not make me or my tank any better then the guy who bought a $10 frag so there’s no need for the arrogance or condescending tones I have seen used on here and in the Hidden Reef. It might get annoying to constantly answer the same basic questions, but we need to check ourselves and tone it down and just HELP. If you can’t do that…just keep your mouth shut and let someone else who wants to see a fellow reefer do better speak up and provide some guidance.

But on the flipside, some noobs do need to take the advice and use it instead of getting upset and thinking the advice is coming from a “no-it-all”. I’ve always said that you can’t be listening if you’re busy talking…

It takes two sides.

"know-it-all"

Sorry i had to :flirt:

But yes, i agree. I wouldn't be where i am today without dre, George, jay, Jose and walts opinions. I'm sure many of u have helped me but those are the ones that popped into my head. They have always been awesome. It's people like then that makes this such a tight knit community. I'm sure if i had some ashole teaching me i wouldn't be where i am in the hobby.

Now i bring on the odyssea jokes... :dance:
 
My wife calls me a fish killer - perhaps i am not taking the conservationist portion to heart.

Maybe i'll call it quits.
 
My wife calls me a fish killer - perhaps i am not taking the conservationist portion to heart.

Maybe i'll call it quits.

Maybe you should do more research and asking questions and follow advice of more expierenced . Don't quit yet, we all went through some bad time with our tanks.
 
I like your points, but I take issue with number 2. Most of the items we're keeping in our tanks are taking lives constantly. Whether it is a Mandarin eating a pod every few minutes or an SPS coral fishing plankton out of the water. I can't keep alive every little piece of SPS that falls off, and to be honest I'm not going to try. Every step and breath I take I'm killing millions of tiny creatures. Does it suddenly become my job to keep it alive when I can see it with my eyes?

You miss my point. I'm not saying we should be required to keep alive absolutely everything and be guilt ridden and overwrought with grief every time that happens, I'm only trying to convey that it gets easy to have a mindset of "it just happens" and to remind ourselves how easy it is to just LET things happen without much effort otherwise and to instead remain vigilant.
 
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