sump setup

superchargedgp

superchargedgp

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you guys must hate me by now

i need help with setting up a sump
i have a basic idea, but i newer put one together

i heed it to be safe , meaning no bubbles to the DT , no overflow, no possibilty of syphoning DT due to power outage

all this is goign to be set up with 60 gallon reef ready cube and sump from william and Eshopps PSK-75 skimmer
also i will be running a chiller just in case

help me!
what to buy and how to glue the pipes together
 
There are a few things you'll need.

Return pump. Match your return pump to your drain pipe size.

PVC pipe. I'm thinking you'll need two different sizes and some various fittings. Try to stay away from 90 degree elbows if you can. A couple unions, one of each line in case you want to remove your sump from the stand. A shutoff valve for the return line will help you dial in the flow compared with the drain.

PVC primer and glue. When you prime each fitting and pipe, make sure you have enough of the pipe primed so that just the primed section will go fully into the fitting. When you then glue both the fitting and pipe, as you push them together, give the pipe a 1/4 twist and hold for about 30 seconds or so to prevent the pipe from pushing out of the fitting.

PVC cutter or hacksaw. I would lean towards the cutter personally because you'll get a nice fit.

If you want to stay away from PVC, you can do spa flex for your drain, and vinyl tubing for your return.

Make sure you have an overflow kit and return kit. If not, you'll probably need two bulkheads (return and drain) and you'll have to build your own durso standpipe, as well as locline for the return.

Seems like a lot, but if you check my build thread, as well as the PVC guide I posted, you should get some ideas.

Build thread: http://www.chicagoreefs.com/forums/showthread.php?15435-My-50-Cadlights-Cube-Artisan-2-Build

PVC guide: http://www.chicagoreefs.com/forums/showthread.php?16148-Aquarium-Plumbing-A-Reference-Thread

Let me know if you have any questions.

Good luck Mike.
 
I have the same tank. Take the threaded bulkheads and bring them to an Ace Hardware, have them match up for you some fittings to then fit tubing to them, or PVC. I prefer flexible tubing as it's a little easier to work with IMO. Pickup some PVC glue and teflon tape while you're if you don't already have it.

As far as siphoning back into the sump, you won't have a problem with. The return PVC section that is provided with the tank has a small hole drilled at the very top of it, this is to break the siphon immediately when the return pump is shut off. Some water will continue to flow into your sump as the water level drains below the corner overflow. You just need to keep your water level in your sump low enough to accept this few gallons of water coming from the DT. You can do this easily if you are using an auto top off in your sump, just set the float or whatever your using low enough in the sump.

What sump is that BTW? Dimensions?
 
That looks like a 3/4" and 1" bulk heads. I recommend putting a union on each piece to allow you to disconnect plumbing if needed. Put a valve before the union so u can shut off flow if needed. You should have asked when u were over. Would have showed you my plumbing on my sump.
 
That sump is made by William on the forums.
My concern with it also is that the last chamber with the little teeth is really high. And there will be not enough room for water when it drains back
 
That chamber will be as high as the teeth, but i'm assuming that's the chamber where the water will drain into from the DT. The other 2 chambers can, and should be lower than that 1st chamber, and it is there where the few gallons of water from the DT will accumulate.
 
superchargedgp said:
what about the chiller. how would you guys set it up?
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You got two avenues to choose. One being a separate pump to pump water from the sump to the chiller then return the water back to the sump. Or second, make your return pump the water through then to the display. The problem that though the chiller adds like 5ft of head so you need a more massive return pump and you have to shut down the whole system for maintenance.

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Looks good so far Mike!

For the chiller, if you're going to run it inline with your return, make sure you find out the recommended flow rate for the chiller to be effective. If the flow is too fast it'll be inefficient and waste electricity, if it's too slow, you run the risk of the internals freezing up.
 
Where is your overflow splashing at? I had a problem with this tank with water noise up by the overflow as well. Though it wasn't the overflow itself making the noise but the return pipe shooting water into the overflow. That hole I mentioned in my previous post that is used to break the siphon was above the waterline and shooting a stream of water that was making a loud noise. I plugged up that hole with a rubber stopper and drilled a new hole just below the surface of the water. Not sure if your seeing the same issue. There is a bit of water noise that comes from the overflow, but It's not that loud to me, I actually find it a bit soothing. Not sure if there's a way to minimize that noise, maybe somebody else will chime in.
 
skyon888 said:
Where is your overflow splashing at? I had a problem with this tank with water noise up by the overflow as well. Though it wasn't the overflow itself making the noise but the return pipe shooting water into the overflow. That hole I mentioned in my previous post that is used to break the siphon was above the waterline and shooting a stream of water that was making a loud noise. I plugged up that hole with a rubber stopper and drilled a new hole just below the surface of the water. Not sure if your seeing the same issue. There is a bit of water noise that comes from the overflow, but It's not that loud to me, I actually find it a bit soothing. Not sure if there's a way to minimize that noise, maybe somebody else will chime in.
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well there is bunch of bubbles coming from the return pipe. the water level in the overflow is much lower than tank water level, and it makes a niagra falls sound. so overflow is loud, bubbles in the drain. elbow on the top of drain has a small hole in the top, and 2 large ones on each side, are they supposed to be there?

im using 1 inch on return and drain. rio 17h pump throttled back a lot with a valve.
please help
 
also could you post the picture of the new hole placement that was the cause of my overflow noise. now to the sump noise the return bubbles like water is boiling any way to make that go away?
 
I drilled a hole right above the water level on my drain pipe to allow air to escape. It prevented the bubbling sound on my sump
 
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