Why everyone jumping ship.

madjoe said:
Kinda funny coming out u mouth . I been running reef for ten year useing same instant ocean hydrometer
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If you feel like that was a personal attack, I apologize. It was intended to mean that a hydrometer was the sole method of testing water and these people wonder why corals and everything else is dying. It was more or less in reference to the person I know who consistently kills tangs. He has no test equipment other than the hydrometer. He throws fish and corals in every weekend. I finally got him to stop using tap water and buy a dual brs reactor. His nitrates were ~100ppm. He mentioned the other day that if anything else dies, he's going to freshwater. So, this topic was relative to a situation I am familiar with.. On the swing side, my IO hydrometer is off by .003 vs a refractometer. Luckily, even if you are off, if you maintain the level, you are fine. Call me crazy, I just like to "know", rather than "hope".
 
Most of my system sales have been because I turned out to want something different. :( I'm very indecisive
 
I must have gotten an awful hydrometer because it off by about .03 vs. my calibrated refractometer. I bought saltwater from oak park natural pets on harlem when i first started and though the water was too salty because of how badly my hydrometer is off. I just only us my refractometer now.
 
I think people under estimate how much research, testing, and time is needed to successfully care for these animals.
 
Tangency said:
I think people under estimate how much research, testing, and time is needed to successfully care for these animals.
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Besides the research, which I do a TON of, my close reefer peeps know I don't do much testing, hehe...but I am surprised with the amount of people who break down due to a kid on the way. I think that the hobby is a nice distraction from the diapers and crying (assuming you can afford the diapers and additional kid costs first). My almost 3yr old loves "Nemo" and her starfish. She tries to help feed any opportunity she gets and she has more time to stare at the tank than I do. Get the fam involved and it'll make for a more enjoyable hobby.
 
Tangency said:
I think people under estimate how much research, testing, and time is needed to successfully care for these animals.
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I agree it took me almost 2 years to realize how much is needed to care for these animals, but after years and years of the hobby evolving and new equipment coming out things started getting easier and easier... Right now for a seasoned Vet in the hobby it can be easy to setup a tank if you have an established system to help seed a new one. Newbies might not know what steps really need to be taken to start up a new system unless the read on the forums or are misinformed by our LFS in the proper steps to take.
 
jayjigga said:
Besides the research, which I do a TON of, my close reefer peeps know I don't do much testing, hehe...but I am surprised with the amount of people who break down due to a kid on the way. I think that the hobby is a nice distraction from the diapers and crying (assuming you can afford the diapers and additional kid costs first). My almost 3yr old loves "Nemo" and her starfish. She tries to help feed any opportunity she gets and she has more time to stare at the tank than I do. Get the fam involved and it'll make for a more enjoyable hobby.
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I have 4 kids and I'm staying strong. Some folk might just find it as an excuse to get out because they aren't enjoying the hobby like most of us are.
 
I think it is some economy (not realizing the expence of proper maintenance) but most of all the time involved in keeping a nice tank, befour work tinker, after work tinker, weekend wc and cleaning, and thats if nothing else goes wrong during the week, very demanding and people just dont realize it untill to late,
 
jayjigga said:
Besides the research, which I do a TON of, my close reefer peeps know I don't do much testing, hehe...but I am surprised with the amount of people who break down due to a kid on the way. I think that the hobby is a nice distraction from the diapers and crying (assuming you can afford the diapers and additional kid costs first). My almost 3yr old loves "Nemo" and her starfish. She tries to help feed any opportunity she gets and she has more time to stare at the tank than I do. Get the fam involved and it'll make for a more enjoyable hobby.
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Research??????... U call watching Tanked research?!!?!
 
As far as the economy, I agree you can pretty much find a job somewhere but it may not be at the rate you were used to getting paid & you may have to work 2 or 3 jobs to keep up. Not much time for a reet tank then...
 
Pufferpunk said:
You must have a "lucky" hydrometer! I'd love to test it against a calibrated refractometer, just to see...
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Y would i bother what do i care my tanks been running fine for ten years if it aint broke then dont fix it . Ive seen people say you cant run a reef without a controler and argue that i havevto many fish and ebayvstuff omg u gonna crash u tank . Copper omg wtf r u nuts yes im flippen totally out my god dang mind there is no need for fancy smancy crap u can test it tell me its off and i will still use the thing if somebody dont like it deal with it u either love me or hate me snd honestly dont give to sheits which one it is
 
madjoe said:
Y would i bother what do i care my tanks been running fine for ten years if it aint broke then dont fix it . Ive seen people say you cant run a reef without a controler and argue that i havevto many fish and ebayvstuff omg u gonna crash u tank . Copper omg wtf r u nuts yes im flippen totally out my god dang mind there is no need for fancy smancy crap u can test it tell me its off and i will still use the thing if somebody dont like it deal with it u either love me or hate me snd honestly dont give to sheits which one it is
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Man good thing this isn't English class!! Lol that was a long run-on sentence with lots of spelling errors! Lol jk man... Had to say it!
 
rosko23 said:
Man good thing this isn't English class!! Lol that was a long run-on sentence with lots of spelling errors! Lol jk man... Had to say it!
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Ah man shaun jr inside joke . Periods r for women my english teacher barely passed me cussed to much but dudnt want me back next year so win win . Actually its stupid smart phone spell check thingy i just type not look but people figure it out
 
madjoe said:
Ah man shaun jr inside joke . Periods r for women my english teacher barely passed me cussed to much but dudnt want me back next year so win win . Actually its stupid smart phone spell check thingy i just type not look but people figure it out
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Lol
 
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