Z & Ps not happy - tank pissed - help?

Hope u figure it out one day i wann c this thing in full glory without frag racks everywhere lol
 
The racks were gone (most frags moved to sandbed but still looked 100x better) annnnd now theyre back on racks... in the frag tank lol
 
DB9181 said:
Thanks Steve, I appreciate it - Assuming things go as the have been in the frag tank, I think I'll be okay - it just depends on if some frags are too far gone. But then again z/ps are pretty resistant and can eventually bounce back. I've lost several SPS from this too, but I think I'm straying away form those/except for low end 'fillers'.



I totally agree that could be a likely reasoning since chemipure is carbon based - The bleaching began after I made all these changes. The odd part (at least for the z/ps) is that they were on racked 1/2 up my tank getting ~200ish par at 60% Blues 50% Whites and I dropped them down to the sand bed (9-12 inches) but did not increase my lighting strength. I can only imagine how quickly they would have bleached had they still been higher.

Currently running Skimmer, purigen, and a sheet of poly-filter (to absorb phos). Glass is starting to need a cleaning again (speaking of which... I used to have hundreds of the dwarf cirths on my glass at night and they're pop has def declined...might need to boost up my CUC.

I have afew options...Looking for suggestions as I do not wait to make any more drastic changes...
1) Feed fish regularly/slightly heavy to get trates back up.
2) Add bag of GFO to sump (possibly get Phosban Reactor running if i have an extra pump) to reduce phos (which, according to my Frag tank readings isn't excessively higher than usual)
3) Add back fresh Activated Carbon Bag
4) Water Change (have not done anything since Saturdays 25%)
5) Reduce LED strength
6) Still need to get Alk up (and pH which has always been low), I do have reef fusion I could dose - other suggestions?
7) __________
8) Do nothing, just wait
9) Pray to the great baby Jesus in the sky
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10) add Kalk to top off water?
 
I recommend you keep doing what you've been doing. One of the things I usually do when I see my Z and P start to close I give it a Bacterial boost and they seem to like it and they come back looking awesome. Right now I have been using Special Blend and it smells really really bad but my Corals love it. Also help reduce Nitrates, Phosphates and keep my water nice and clean without having to do a water change on a regular bases, My SPS are even growing and encrusting fantastically. I wouldn't add Kalk if it's not really needed unless you have alot of SPS in that Frag Tank?
 
Tank2379 said:
I recommend you keep doing what you've been doing. One of the things I usually do when I see my Z and P start to close I give it a Bacterial boost and they seem to like it and they come back looking awesome. Right now I have been using Special Blend and it smells really really bad but my Corals love it. Also help reduce Nitrates, Phosphates and keep my water nice and clean without having to do a water change on a regular bases, My SPS are even growing and encrusting fantastically. I wouldn't add Kalk if it's not really needed unless you have alot of SPS in that Frag Tank?
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No SPS in the frag tank Frankie, all z/ps (except for my rasta goni that I moved over lastnight). What would u recommend for Bacterial Boost? 'Special Blend' as in....? (its too early)
 
Still open to suggestions/input as what steps to take next...

I have afew options...Looking for suggestions as I do not wait to make any more drastic changes...
1) Feed fish regularly/slightly heavy to get trates back up.
2) Add bag of GFO to sump (possibly get Phosban Reactor running if i have an extra pump) to reduce phos (which, according to my Frag tank readings isn't excessively higher than usual)
3) Add back fresh Activated Carbon Bag
4) Water Change (have not done anything since Saturdays 25%)
5) Reduce LED strength
6) Still need to get Alk up (and pH which has always been low), I do have reef fusion I could dose - other suggestions?
7) __________
8) Do nothing, just wait
9) Pray to the great baby Jesus in the sky
 
I had a similar issue. moved from purigen to chemipure...z n p's got pissy. took about 3 weeks to get them happy. i left the chemipure in and buffered the sh!t out of the tank and did a couple 20% wc's alk was around 5-6 it took about a week and a half of 9-10 alk stable for them to get happy. even now though, there are a couple frags that are still pissy.

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10) Sell your high end Z&P collection to CoralN00b because you care about them too much to risk them being upset. Send them to a good home. :burnout:
 
Jason13 said:
I had a similar issue. moved from purigen to chemipure...z n p's got pissy. took about 3 weeks to get them happy. i left the chemipure in and buffered the sh!t out of the tank and did a couple 20% wc's alk was around 5-6 it took about a week and a half of 9-10 alk stable for them to get happy. even now though, there are a couple frags that are still pissy.

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Hmm, Yea I'm really thinking it was the chemipure that just completely wiped everything out. Buffering as in additives/reef fusion?

I moved acouple frags over from the DT this weekend and they're starting to show signs of looking better so hopefully they all continue to bounce back and I can get the situation in the DT corrected.
 
Yeah, it is an alk/ph buffer made by kent. a couple teaspoons in a glass of ro every afternoon for about a week and now once a week to keep alk where i want it.

I love what tge chemipure does for my tank, but I didn't expect thus kind of rocky start.

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I dose 2 or 3ml each day in 30 gallon+10 galllon sum when saw all my zoas close up. After 2 weeks they are all happy. It's carbon but light not strong like vodka, also a different kind of vitamin. You don't eat food which contain vinegar, don't you?

BTW, I never smell my feet :)
 
maidia said:
I dose 2 or 3ml each day in 30 gallon+10 galllon sum when saw all my zoas close up. After 2 weeks they are all happy. It's carbon but light not strong like vodka, also a different kind of vitamin. You don't eat food which contain vinegar, don't you?
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Alright maybe I'll do that in the frag tank and see if it helps them - its a 20L so... maybe 1.5ml daily?

As far as GFO in the DT... ratio? I know you should do 1/2 the recommended amount for the first month, but ive been finding pretty different ratios/amounts.
 
1 or 1.5 ml is fine. It's not strong. I never worry about PH in Z&P tank because when the light off then my sum light is on to balance the PH. I change water every 2 weeks so the alk not up and down a lot. The V keep the N and P low that what I want.
 
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