Frag grow outs...?

Well, you can go big or you can go not so big!


Yea... Lol

I can see 5-6cap on that Trops OD. $125-$150/person.

I'd say around a $125-150cap. Not too sure how much higher I'd be able to go.

At $10-$30/person, we'd have to pitch in on a microscope so we can each see our portion. JK JK

I can see some cheaper things working more then the expensive. Not many people can afford to drop that on a frag, we all have our budgets.
 
I hope you get this insured somehow!
Otherwise if the propagator's tank crashes, or something happens, there will be a lot of mad broke people.
 
the point of this is to get high end frags corals that would need alot of time to save up the money for im pretty sure theres people that could aford a 80 dollar frag alone

im just seeing if anyone would be interested in some of the cheaper ones because i cant afford a 80 dollar frag..
 
I haven't looked Into it. But I would think home owners insurance would cover it. But I'd double check on it.
 
Yea... Lol

I can see 5-6cap on that Trops OD. $125-$150/person.

I'd say around a $125-150cap. Not too sure how much higher I'd be able to go.

At $10-$30/person, we'd have to pitch in on a microscope so we can each see our portion. JK JK

I can see some cheaper things working more then the expensive. Not many people can afford to drop that on a frag, we all have our budgets.




your right we all have budgets
we can look for pieces like the one i put a link to
5 people 700 were around that range and in a few months you will get a unique piece
 
That sounds reasonable to me. Idk dependent on coral I might go higher. Depends on how long till we plan on making a purchase as well.
 
I hope you get this insured somehow!
Otherwise if the propagator's tank crashes, or something happens, there will be a lot of mad broke people.

thats a chance your taking cause even in ur tank you take that chance with everything
as ted mentioned it had to be a person who really looks at what he puts in
erick knows whats waisting money on a piece of coral he has multiple high end corals
 
Hey, I'm in! I always seem to like stuff I can't afford on my own, lol!


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I'm glad to see so many people excited to participate in these, that we can do them often! I always got sad when I saw all these super awesome corals that I couldn't afford alone being set up for group grow outs in other states.

The idea of them is to "go big or go home" because of what javiersito91 said above. Most people can afford the $100 frag... but a $1000 frag... not so much. This allows multiple people in one area to get one for an affordable price.

That's not saying that if you want to set up a less expensive one, go for it! Anyone can set them up and for whatever type of coral, chalices, acans, SPS, zoas. It could be for a kill pack you can put together or for just one super expensive frag.

Regarding insurance - everyone participating knows that it is an "at your own risk." That goes to the person you select for grow out, to tank conditions, and to the unfortunate unseen event. You cannot hold the person responsible or expect them to make a claim on their homeowners insurance. Make sure you select (or participate with) a trustworthy person who knows how to care and frag the coral intended for grow out!

That being said, I can host the first one if everyone wants (thanks for the kind words on my tank). I'm thinking a high end chalices (and/or acans/micros thrown in for fun) pack. I'm flexible and can put together anything from $1000 to $2000 for a super crazy pack. Or I could also just do that one sexy chalice I first posted.... the one that is $1500 a frag (I've seen frags of it and even the frags are stunning).
 
I'm in on the first one you posted at 1500. Just let me know. By the time it's ready to frag. I should be up and rolling.



I'm glad to see so many people excited to participate in these, that we can do them often! I always got sad when I saw all these super awesome corals that I couldn't afford alone being set up for group grow outs in other states.

The idea of them is to "go big or go home" because of what javiersito91 said above. Most people can afford the $100 frag... but a $1000 frag... not so much. This allows multiple people in one area to get one for an affordable price.

That's not saying that if you want to set up a less expensive one, go for it! Anyone can set them up and for whatever type of coral, chalices, acans, SPS, zoas. It could be for a kill pack you can put together or for just one super expensive frag.

Regarding insurance - everyone participating knows that it is an "at your own risk." That goes to the person you select for grow out, to tank conditions, and to the unfortunate unseen event. You cannot hold the person responsible or expect them to make a claim on their homeowners insurance. Make sure you select (or participate with) a trustworthy person who knows how to care and frag the coral intended for grow out!

That being said, I can host the first one if everyone wants (thanks for the kind words on my tank). I'm thinking a high end chalices (and/or acans/micros thrown in for fun) pack. I'm flexible and can put together anything from $1000 to $2000 for a super crazy pack. Or I could also just do that one sexy chalice I first posted.... the one that is $1500 a frag (I've seen frags of it and even the frags are stunning).
 
I'm in a few grow outs with around 10 people. Still waiting for frags. One over a year and another over 2 years. Never again for a few reasons:

1. Too many things happen and change in peoples lives in that period of time.
2. By the time a 1500.00 frag is ready its worth only 350.00 if that.
3. Too many things die in that time period for too many unforseen reasons.
4. If and when you get it the frag it may not even look like the picture.
5. To many don't understand risk. If it dies your out plane and simple no refund or pointing fingers ect...
6. I never would want to be the grower yet alway a fight for the job from hell. ( Pictures ,Updates, Complaining People,Dishonest People,Cut it , dont cut it yet ect.. )
7. There is no time period . The frags grow only as fast as they grow.
Just my 2 cents from be there.
 
Thanks for your imput Top Water. You bring up some valid points that people should be aware of the risks. It sounds like you've been burned a few times and not a very good pick of corals, and shadey people, were selected for the grow outs.

If correct corals are selected that are rare and limited then they're value would not drop in that short amount of time. How many peple are buying $1500 frags? Not many. By stating that too many things die means that the corals are in peoples tank with poor husbandry. I RARELY ever loose a coral/frag (I can count on one hand for all the years I've been in the hobby). When it has happened it's been within the vendors live arrival guarantee and it's been replaced.

Everyone does need to understand the risks, and from the sound of everyone else chiming in they do. Where else can you get a $1000 frag for $200? Sure it may take a few months, and a bit of a risk, but that is something you have to do to gain from the grow out.
 
Eric can i ask you aquestion?
saw some photo from you. How did you take it? it looks so nice on your corals. is it from your tank or by the seller.
I have a canon 7d with macro len 28-135mm..
the color didn't stand out like your?
thanks
 
with all that being said, maybe we try a 1000 piece with 5 people as a test run. That way if we lose out then its 200, a lot of money, but not the end of the world. Like I said I maybe very new to this, but I have been trolling this site for over 3-4 months. I know there are a few people with gorgeous tanks that I would trust with this "trial" and Eric is probably one of the tanks I have seen here that fit that criteria. this is probably not for everyone because of the risks, but the rewards are big as well. That being said, I am still interested. Shoot me a PM when the decision is finalized.
 
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