OT: Asking for HELP!!!

Asking for HELP POLL

  • Afraid to see member’s negative response?

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  • Not afraid and will ask for help on the form?

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  • Will just ask one of the member’s via-pm or someway of chat?

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  • NOT SURE!!!

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It all depends on the type of question, it could be reef related or personal, that the person is asking. Of course personal questions can't be found using the search function, but reef related can be. If you can take constructive criticism, then post on open forum, if not, then send a pm or use chat.
 
I voted and said I won't be afraid of asking but I would also pm someone a question if I knew they were we knowledged in that area or just to chat with a friend. But on the part of redundant posts, IMO, I think it's ok to ask a question that may have an answer on here already. Being somewhat new to everyone that's here I see it as an opportunity to get to know more on this site better. If its a common question which very well has been asked its nice to put yourself out there to meet and talk with others. That's how others become comfortable with people and feel ok with meeting someone in person.
And I am one that often has lots of questions so if it's a question that is common it is a good possibility that it can turn into more questions.
 
for me was afraid of getting negative respones or being blasted by peeps.. but i learned now so i just do searches/youtube vids/ask via pm..
 
My personal experience, not just on this forum, but in general: I ask a question and I may get a few responses... Then I see someone ask a similar question, or maybe one that is more confusing than mine, and they get tons of replies.

Maybe its how I ask the question, or maybe its because no one really knows who I am. I tend to keep to myself, so its hard for me to get get to know people and for them to get to know me.

So I usually just do research and trial and error. If I can't figure it out, then I MAY resort to asking on a forum.

Just my experience, not intended to be negative in any way to anyone or this forum...
 
This is good feed back!! As a member on this forum I have noticed many things and have always met great great members.. I love to help as many of you know :D

But when something pops out in a certain way.. It bothers me!!

This is a OT thread about HELP and how you feel about it when recived.

Don't worry!! I won't allow personal attacks here..

Vote!!! See the graph
 
i always do research but this hobby been around for awhile and things change just because somebody asked same question a year ago people get annoyed and to me thats just people being idiots. why have forum on reefing if u cant ask a question in fear of peoples responses. and ive seen it on here many times. hey with new info every day maybe its the same ? but not always get the same answers. imo if u dont have nothing nice to say about a post and dont want to answer the same question again then keep u mouth shut or should i say keep u fingers off the keyboard and move on to another post. some of the new people do get irritated by peoples ignorant comments and leave the forum. thats just not cool. and its always the same people every time. any way i post what ever questions i have and like the reponses bad or good lets me know who the idiots on here and whos the nice people that way when it goes time to buy something u know who not to waste u time with . so to every one post away with all questions it lets u learn alot more then just the answer u looking for
 
I myself have spent countless hours researching and learning this hobby. Recently researching about True vs False percs. I feel the search feature should be used a bit more often.
I love to give help where im needed and will accept as well. I however have taken these inquiries to pm with members. There is only so much you can read untill your eyes are bugged out and your girlfriend is burning your clothes. Using the forum is a shortcut sometime but for questions like "how do I start a siphon?". YouTube is a great place.
Finally, don't come to the party empty handed. Give advice and feel good about understanding a particular subject. Just make sure your facts are in line.
I've been on this forum almost from its beginning. It's truely the most carefree forum. Besides some nonsense here and there its really a great group of people.
 
I'm new here and have to say because of my own insecurities I do tend not to ask for help here. I think it is because you all seem to know one another and I still feel like an outsider. You've all been nothing but kind and helpful when I have reached out, but it is just intimidating for me, I'm a loner type. Meeting and getting to know new people has always been difficult for me.

I tend to ask on RC, (I hope I can mention that), because I feel more anonymous there. But I am ALWAYS on here secretly reading, learning and searching, and even contributing with comments, but rarely with a problem I need help with. I just don't want to feel like a failure when I make a mistake, and also I just don't want to be a bother to anyone. This is all MY fears, nothing anyone has done.

OK, now that you all know my innermost secrets...
 
I usually don't ask for help but I do post questions just to see how something can be done in different ways. I normally would google for help with something and check answers from different sources.
 
edsbeaker said:
I'm new here and have to say because of my own insecurities I do tend not to ask for help here. I think it is because you all seem to know one another and I still feel like an outsider. You've all been nothing but kind and helpful when I have reached out, but it is just intimidating for me, I'm a loner type. Meeting and getting to know new people has always been difficult for me.

I tend to ask on RC, (I hope I can mention that), because I feel more anonymous there. But I am ALWAYS on here secretly reading, learning and searching, and even contributing with comments, but rarely with a problem I need help with. I just don't want to feel like a failure when I make a mistake, and also I just don't want to be a bother to anyone. This is all MY fears, nothing anyone has done.

OK, now that you all know my innermost secrets...
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A month ago i was new here and now i feel like i know everyone here. This place is friendly as hell and everyone is always offering help and things u may need. Give it a little time and you will feel like part of the "family"
 
I didn't know jack squat when I came here. Still don't really. I ask whatever question I have but that is usually after a bit of a search. I have tried to be positive and I try to return the answers to new people to keep the vets from getting annoyed. Sometimes the search function leaves you wanting the question phrased a different way and sometimes it completely kills the question. I honestly have been surprised at how patient most people usually are but I can definitely see where newer people could be intimidated. In my profession we use a progression to describe expertise with a subject matter. It applies to learning anything:
1. Unconsciously incompetent: you don't even know how little you know
2. Consciously incompetent: you are aware of how little you know.
3. Consciously competent: you have the knowledge and can access it with a little effort.
4. Unconsciously competent: you don't even know how much you've learned. You forget that you ever didn't know and you assume that everyone should know just like you.
Most of the time people have trouble communicating across more than one position. Maybe some of us need to apply this theory to more than just the pure reef keeping aspect of this community? Smashing someone with knowledge is not nearly as impressive as helping them smash their ignorance.


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edsbeaker said:
I'm new here and have to say because of my own insecurities I do tend not to ask for help here. I think it is because you all seem to know one another and I still feel like an outsider. You've all been nothing but kind and helpful when I have reached out, but it is just intimidating for me, I'm a loner type. Meeting and getting to know new people has always been difficult for me.

I tend to ask on RC, (I hope I can mention that), because I feel more anonymous there. But I am ALWAYS on here secretly reading, learning and searching, and even contributing with comments, but rarely with a problem I need help with. I just don't want to feel like a failure when I make a mistake, and also I just don't want to be a bother to anyone. This is all MY fears, nothing anyone has done.

OK, now that you all know my innermost secrets...
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I'm almost the exact same way!
 
Joe5688 said:
A month ago i was new here and now i feel like i know everyone here. This place is friendly as hell and everyone is always offering help and things u may need. Give it a little time and you will feel like part of the "family"
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That's not fair. I've been here longer than you have. I should be telling you that.
Thanks for the encouragement, Joe. I'm not going anywhere. The few people I have met in person are all great and have been extremely helpful with advice. I just have to get over the "not wanting to be a bother" thing.
 
The BEST way to get comfortable with the forum is to become engaged. Post your questions and pictures and build threads.There are a LOT of members who really love helping newer reefers (or experienced ones becasue nobody knows everything) and they will go out of their way lend assistance.

Having 1000+ posts does not make anyone any better, or more experienced or smarter than someone who has 10 posts. It simply means they have engaged the site. I spent a couple years lurking on a national forum and only posted when I had noob questions. I never started posting regularly until I found this forum because I liked how it was local. Sort of an opposite experience than you, Marilyn.

You don't need to post everyday or comment on everything if that is not your "thing". However, I would strongly urge members to ask questions if they have them and especially post your thoughts when someone is looking for advice. Aside from noobs, I know there are a whole bunch of reefers lurking on this site who have years and years of experience. I would love to hear from them too.

I could see why a lot of people don't post. They see the same core group of members always posting and it really looks like a private clique. To that, I say, you can look at this forum in one of 3 ways. As a social site, as a reef-related informative site or a combination of the two. If you don't want to be "social", that is a-okay, but I would still encourage everyone to engage in the reef-related discussions. Just my $0.02...
 
Speaking of asking for help I could use some right now. LOL I almost broke my foot the day after the cookout

and cant get up there to place my corals from the grab bag and the ones I got from reef city and it's driving

me nuts that I can't do it. I got about 10 or 12 that need to be relocated from the back and the frag rack up

to the front so everyone can see them. But if this is the wrong place to ask can a mod please move it to the

right place. Thank you
 
SkunkerX said:
Speaking of asking for help I could use some right now. LOL I almost broke my foot the day after the cookout

and cant get up there to place my corals from the grab bag and the ones I got from reef city and it's driving

me nuts that I can't do it. I got about 10 or 12 that need to be relocated from the back and the frag rack up

to the front so everyone can see them. But if this is the wrong place to ask can a mod please move it to the

right place. Thank you
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I'm camping Steve but someone please help the guy out! :)
 
I can stop by there today Steve...I'll probably come over after I leave the gym later, so I'll call you to confirm.
 
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