Yogo's 110 build. A year long endeavor!

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yogoshio

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So, as most of you heard, bambam did the most generous PIF I've ever seen, and I now have a 110g double overflow tank.

I am building the stand so it can be exactly how I want it. I would like to build a "wraparound" type, where a section of the sides are covered and the stand and canopy are a single piece, or at least appear that way. That way I can hide all plumbing, closed loop systems, and more and have more under-tank space as well. If anyone has ideas on how to do this, help would be nice. I have some mock-ups I'll try and get on here (they're just written out now).

I have some questions, however. For one, two overflows obviously means it can handle lots of flow, so I'm gonna need a mega-pump.

External pumps are new to me, so how are the plumbed? Do I need a drilled tank, or can pvc piping just be U shaped over the edge of a sump?

Also, in terms of the sump, if anyone has an extra 55 gallon tank they'd like to trade me, I would like to build a sump out of a 55 gallon tank, but mine won't be empty till we move, which won't be till next June, so if someone has a 55 gallon to spare, I can give them back mine when we move? Just a thought...

I am also creating my own reef rock, and I have that in the DIY section. As things come together, I'll post some combined shots. I plan on making rock for the back walls and cover the overflow boxes too so it looks like a reef wall with some "real" shelves and depth.

This will be a year long WIP since this won't get set up till we move, but I want it PERFECT when we do.
 
You cant drill a 55 for external pump the u idea over the tank might work donno but ideal would be drilled at side of the sump
 
Oh that's right, 55's are all tempered glass.... Is there an internal pump that won't kill me that'll get super flow?
 
lunacris said:
You cant drill a 55 for external pump the u idea over the tank might work donno but ideal would be drilled at side of the sump
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Thats how i had it yogo i can send you a video of the sump when i had it running also have the top mesh covers if one day ur around the area want to come grave them i forgot to give that to dre
 
Just have NanoSeaCreations build you a sweet custom sump exactly how you want it. You have a year to make up that cost, and it will be WELL worth the investment. You want this amazing setup all done up, but want to repurpose a tank as a sump, just doesn't make sense to me since a 55g is a horrible shape tank to build a sump from, it's not very deep, it's way too tall. It's just very awkward to plumb around, fit equipment into, and keep clean. If you insist on repurposing a glass tank as a sump, I would really look into using a 40 breeder and building the stand to accommodate it.
 
Oh cool. I forgot he mentioned you gave it to him first, lol. I noticed your going with a Mag, any reason if you have an external pump?
 
FishBeard said:
Just have NanoSeaCreations build you a sweet custom sump exactly how you want it. You have a year to make up that cost, and it will be WELL worth the investment. You want this amazing setup all done up, but want to repurpose a tank as a sump, just doesn't make sense to me since a 55g is a horrible shape tank to build a sump from, it's not very deep, it's way too tall. It's just very awkward to plumb around, fit equipment into, and keep clean. If you insist on repurposing a glass tank as a sump, I would really look into using a 40 breeder and building the stand to accommodate it.
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I was using the tank because I want to do it myself. I want this to be my setup, even if I didn't build the tank itself, lol. I didn't consider the height of the tank being an issue, though, thanks for that. I'll look into finding a freebie or cheapie smaller one. And nothing against paying others to do stuff, but I really want to build this :)
 
Nothing wrong with DIY. If you need any help with building the sump just shoot me a message, I've done plenty of them. 20" is just a lot of height wasted when you only need around 8" for a skimmer. You gain back an extra 5" of water volume with the added depth of a 40b compared to a 55g, along with additional room so you won't feel like you are cramming everything in to make it all fit. If you have spent time looking at prefab sumps, most large ones top out around a 16" x 16" depth and height, very similar to the dimensions of a 40b.
 
In terms of return pumps, with two 1" drains and two 1/2" returns, is a mag 12 enough? I for an extra $20 go with an 18?
 
You sure it's a pair of 1/2" returns and not 3/4"? I'd do the mag18, and plumb any reactors off one main pump instead of dropping multiple pumps in the water creating extra heat. If anything, you can dial it down as required, but two 1" drains can handle a mag18 no problem if you never add anything else to the pump.
 
They are 3/4, thanks for making me double check :) I may or may not do reactors... BRS empty reactors seem like a decent cost, since I wouldn't have to buy more pumps especially. And would you just split the return? I wouldn't think a SCWD would be good for keeping steady flow...

For an external pump that's a cheapie, would eheim be my best bet for a CLS? I'd hoping to have a pull line run across the back floor (right above the sand line) and then come back in two spots. I definitely will use a SCWD there.
 
You would just build a valve tree to attach to the pump, and then have one of the lines on the tree lead off to your returns. Then you can utilize any of the other branches for things like reactors, closed loop flow to your refugium, even have a branch with a quick disconnect drain line for water changes if you like! The possibilities are only limited by how much flow you really need for your entire systems needs (minus a closed loop that would require a separate pump regardless)
 
Gotcha. Is eheim a good economic option for closed loop? I like the mag 18 for return, and will look into a valve tree. For closed loop though, is that the best deal for external pumps?
 
So, as far as return pumps...

The tank has two returns and two overflows.

I currently have a rio 3100+ as my return (4ft flow at about 690gph).

If I get a mag18, the 4 foot flow rate is 1375.

Would it be ok to use two pumps, one for each return? I know it's more room, but my return area would still fit both pumps anyway.

I'll still need a mag18 or something external like it for the closed loop (come on tethered, get a new skimmer!), but this would be an easy way for me to bring down costs by like $100, so it's not really small change.
 
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