Madjoes rebuild
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fishtank44
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Yeah just feed the fish more and do more vitamin for corals lol.
IHaveCrabs
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Haha good to know. Sodium nitrate it is then!
The nitrate really made a difference for me after the vibrant. Maybe feeding will do the job. If things start looking rough just throw a little nitrate in there!
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The nitrate really made a difference for me after the vibrant. Maybe feeding will do the job. If things start looking rough just throw a little nitrate in there!
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Rcunning8
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I vote feeding heavy and keeping nitrates at 2-5 I've never used the sodium nitrate but why add those chemicals when u can get nitrates the natural way and increase your biofilter simultaneously? lol I dunno but I'm glad the sand is clean again! Fingers crossed man!
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ultimatemj
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Glad to hear you have a "break through".
That said,low nutrients and "run away" bacteria is flirting with disaster...
My opinion is just that KNo3 is WAY more risky than NaN03. Potassium "crashing" is real. A little Kno3 is fine if a little bump is needed to get N03 up, but K over 400ppm in your DT quickly plays with fire....around 460 or 470 BOOM. NaN03 doesn't have any identified risk, beyond "too much too fast"...but with steady rates you can get to 20ppm before anything significantly negative happens.
On a different topic, I found struggles when P04 rose faster than N03...all sorts of algae blooms and stability issues. Hard to get N03 up without pushing P04 even higher....
If both are low, feed more and get the good bacteria type population up via DrTim's, Seachem Stability, Fitzym, etc.
If N03 is immeasurable and P04 is 0.1 or higher, dose enough NaNo3 to maintain N03 above 2ppm...and get onto a disciplined maintenance schedule to finish what you have begun.
Good luck and thanks for sharing your journey~
Not sure I've heard of low P04 with N03 above 2ppm...I'd be interested to hear if you have that! If that happened to me, I'd feed more and dose bacteria to process the nitrogen.
That said,low nutrients and "run away" bacteria is flirting with disaster...
My opinion is just that KNo3 is WAY more risky than NaN03. Potassium "crashing" is real. A little Kno3 is fine if a little bump is needed to get N03 up, but K over 400ppm in your DT quickly plays with fire....around 460 or 470 BOOM. NaN03 doesn't have any identified risk, beyond "too much too fast"...but with steady rates you can get to 20ppm before anything significantly negative happens.
On a different topic, I found struggles when P04 rose faster than N03...all sorts of algae blooms and stability issues. Hard to get N03 up without pushing P04 even higher....
If both are low, feed more and get the good bacteria type population up via DrTim's, Seachem Stability, Fitzym, etc.
If N03 is immeasurable and P04 is 0.1 or higher, dose enough NaNo3 to maintain N03 above 2ppm...and get onto a disciplined maintenance schedule to finish what you have begun.
Good luck and thanks for sharing your journey~
Not sure I've heard of low P04 with N03 above 2ppm...I'd be interested to hear if you have that! If that happened to me, I'd feed more and dose bacteria to process the nitrogen.
rockhead
Well-known member
More feeding more phosphates more algae, uncontrollable. Dosing 5ml daily or where ever your target is ppm then you can back off or add more. If you have a great clean up crew to keep up with all that feeding then go go it.
rockhead
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madjoe
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Lol all this heavy dosing of all dif kinds of crap has been wipping out the cleanup crew cause the rocks and walls r alage free no food for them to eat even my shrimp r committing suicide into my mps watched on do it today and swear he went in on purpose
madjoe
Premium member
Yea well its tough to keep em alive with no food . Three day black outs all alage goes away even the power heads get so clean looks like i soaked em in vinegar still have some snails and urchins and least one shrimp plus sand shifters usually dont take long to get this tank dirty again other wise the rest of snails r gonners
Sawdonkey
Premium member
My PO4 is almost always zero or near zero due to GFO. My nitrates are often up around ten, even with biopellets. My tank theory is to feed a lot, and remove nutrients aggressively.
Sometimes, I'll start to see some algae show up even when my PO4 tests zero. I'll change out the GFO, and it dies within a week.
madjoe
Premium member
Well day three with lights on . And they havent gotten any worse sand has lite dusting of red in few spots but goes away every night and hasnt gotten any worse yet . Not snotty looking either more like when sand is cycleing look. Water isnt crystal clear kinda looks like micro bubble but its not im guessing bacteria alage bloom gonna plug my uv back in see if it takes care of it. If im right will go away in a day of running uv. Fingers crossed on the rest gonna feed corals right now since lights just went out. Only coral to take hit was pearl berry but pretty sure that was in rough shape before all this dont think i found its happy place since i brought it back to the tank
madjoe
Premium member
Looks like it like i said fingers crossed even if corals struggle a bit i will be happy just to be rid of this slime crap