Zoa Poison Real?!?

poidog said:
Lol. What service? My better half was marines.
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I was in the Army for the better part of 9 years...I actually had two soldiers of mine that came from the Marine Corps...plus we had to cross train with them pretty often...know them well...only service when I make fun of them I actually dont mean it :D
 
caragol said:
Or could be coincidental food poisoning, did you eat out yesterday? If you think it's real, bring info with you to hospital because it's likely they haven't dealt with it a lot.
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That's along the lines of what I was thiking.

Naseau could be a sign & maybe your losing some appetite for food also?
 
infinite abyss said:
That's along the lines of what I was thiking.

Naseau could be a sign & maybe your losing some appetite for food also?
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If you are doubting how deadly Palytoxin can be, read this thread - http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2140450

I am scared to death about this stuff. To think that you might be one tank break, one electrical mishap away from poisoning your wife and children, it's just not worth it. It might be one thing for grown adults, but small kids are another matter entirely. I can't even handle the thought of my kids suffering or dying because I wanted to keep some corals. And it is also a known tumor promoter. Nothing is worth this. Nothing. And for those you who believe that poisonous zoas are far and few between, that's not true. It is more like 30-40%.
 
I think that most of the dangers that come from this is from being careless... Me being one of those. I may be uneducated in this, reason why this post was started, but still classify myself as a careless one. I am wondering about how would an electrical mishap or tank break cause anything bad on your family? Being careful in this hobby is the name of the game? From what I read almost everything in our tank has some form of toxins to them. Why does your hand feel funny when you brush past your anemone? You wouldnt have a foxface to eat your algae then right? Their barbs have poison? Its all about being careful.

I'm not saying do what you feel is right at all, but just be educated. Every part of this hobby, the hobbyist needs to be educated. That is why this wonderful forum exists.
 
SaltyScotty said:
I think that most of the dangers that come from this is from being careless... Me being one of those. I may be uneducated in this, reason why this post was started, but still classify myself as a careless one. I am wondering about how would an electrical mishap or tank break cause anything bad on your family? Being careful in this hobby is the name of the game? From what I read almost everything in our tank has some form of toxins to them. Why does your hand feel funny when you brush past your anemone? You wouldnt have a foxface to eat your algae then right? Their barbs have poison? Its all about being careful.

I'm not saying do what you feel is right at all, but just be educated. Every part of this hobby, the hobbyist needs to be educated. That is why this wonderful forum exists.
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If my tank broke today, I can see my kids splashing water to each other. Accidents do happen with or without education. As for toxins present in other corals, you are right about that. However, nothing in this hobby compares to Palytoxin. Palytoxin is the second deadliest poison in the world. It has been in use for thousands of years for hunting and war. It makes me laugh whenever I hear that Palytoxin was discovered in 1971. Just like America was discovered in 1492. By the way, good to see that you are feeling better.
 
Here is another link. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/n...adliest-poison-in-an-aquarium-store-near-you/

From the article -
Venom enthusiasts know that the potency of poisons is measured using the LD-50 – the dose that will kill half a group of mice after a set time. The most venomous snake has an LD-50 of 25 micrograms per kilogram of body weight. For tetrodotoxin, the equivalent figure is 8 micrograms. For batrachotoxin, the poison from the skin of poison dart frogs, it’s 2-7 micrograms. For palytoxin, it’s 0.3 micrograms (or 300 nanograms)
 
All I can say is "WOW" I'm fairly new here and have been creeping around for the last couple months reading and learning as much as I can about this awsome and addicting hobby. And by reading this I have learned a very valuable lesson. I never new that zoas were toxic and how dangerous it can be to frag them. Although I am a long way from ever doing any fragging it is still scary to me. Salty I hope you are feeling better and I thank you for your service in the Army. My hats off to you sir. A combat medic is a tuff MOS.....as an ex "high velocity projectile interceptor" I was patched up a few times by you guys.
 
critter243 said:
All I can say is "WOW" I'm fairly new here and have been creeping around for the last couple months reading and learning as much as I can about this awsome and addicting hobby. And by reading this I have learned a very valuable lesson. I never new that zoas were toxic and how dangerous it can be to frag them. Although I am a long way from ever doing any fragging it is still scary to me. Salty I hope you are feeling better and I thank you for your service in the Army. My hats off to you sir. A combat medic is a tuff MOS.....as an ex "high velocity projectile interceptor" I was patched up a few times by you guys.
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HA!! Havent heard that in a while, you "boot straps" have always been all right with me! I appreciate you too brother!!
 
I inhaled Polytoxin after trying to cook brown palys off rocks with boiling water in a sealed container. Messed me up pretty good. Wasnt fun
 
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