Spring frag swap! 05/18/13 @ the odeum
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FishBeard
New member
Ooh, George, if I'm to buy "Table Space", does there need to be a table? When I sell, and I will at this event, I'm going to have my frag tanks on stands, but that doesn't really work on a table...
And guys, $5 isn't that much. Would I prefer free entry for members? Sure! Is $5 an obscene amount? No. Plus, this is a non-for-profit, so all of the money eventually finds its way back to us, the hobbyists.
Ben, if you are buying a full 8' hobby space and don't need the actual table in your way, we can have the venue just set you up with your chairs and power hookup, that won't be a problem at all! I think your idea for the swap is awesome, ill definitely be stopping at your space early in the day...
Funlad3
Well-known member
That sounds awesome George! Commit me for a full 8' space then; we're going to have some fun...
FishBeard
New member
There is not a single person involved with CMAS that is taking home any sort of paycheck for their contributions to the club. Well, unless you count all those surplus trial size bottles of marine conditioner we can't even give away, lol!
yogoshio
New member
Just to be clear, this was NOT aimed at CMAS, just a reminder that not all NFP are so kind. Too many people see NFP or 501(c)(3) and assume its a good spot, when more often than not it isn't true.
FishBeard
New member
Shoot me an email and ill get that request forwarded along!
Kmiec123
New member
Sorry for the delay in responce. I did post on RC in responce last night, and don't feel I need to repeate those comments here too. 
I will give some other info here....Some of my thought process for the $5 admission was to simplify the entry at the beginning of the swap. Let's face it, past swaps the raffle and the entry to the event has been a fiasco due to lack of a little pre-planning. That is part of what this is about, to expedite the chaos at the beginning and not have our participants standing in line for 30 min...they should spend that time spending money at our vendors and buying raffle tickets.
Another reason for the decrease in cost to non-members was a trial thing. There is to be 2500-3000 other people at the venue for other events. Part of the club's mission statement, that I agree with, is to promote the hobby, that is the purpose for the minimal fee for all, and maybe they will be some raffle tickets and make up the difference and get in the hobby if they win a tank, then join the club to learn how to keep the tank alive. I guess we will see if it works out, but the reasoning behind it is positive, not greedy.
This is this boards first event...remember this board started Jan 1, 2013. There is not involvement or help from the past board members that planned past events, so we are learning as we go, cut us a little slack. You will see detailed financials at minimum quarterly, and/or after large events. I could not agree more on the issue of transparency and am surprise I am still a member from lack of it in the past, that is not usually how I roll.
I realize, due to some past issues with the raffle, that the refund to members in raffle tickets don't seem to be much of anything. But, I assure you, not one single decision about how the raffle is to be run has been made, but I want major changes to make it more appealing to everyone. Suggestions welcome, as always. Ideas thrown around.... Separate premium item with entry ticket only-one chance to win for all!....One big Drum for all tickets, not picking to put all your eggs in one basket for premium items-$700 in tickets will more likely get your a whole bunch of purple up and Rod's food! not that that's a bad thing on the Rod's food. This is where your participation will be appreciated to not have a fiasco and make the raffle more manageable.
I am speaking my opinion he and always. I will and would never submit a "Voice from the Board" unless I have brought it to their attention and got a vote on that issue. IMO nobody should be speaking on behalf of the CMAS Board without consulting the whole board. I am not an advocate of censoring in any way...other than personal attacks, slander, liable, etc. I'll take all input, and not take anything personally, and bring it for a group vote....the vote wins and I will back up that decision. This is the best practice I have found that works on NFP organization...and not to brag, but I am involve in quite a few....Ask and I'll submit the list.
So bring on the constructive comments. I can not check all the forums, so your voice is more likely to be heard directly on the CMAS site, so I encourage you to comment their so I don;t need to check multiple forums, as I am involved in a lot of things. "Why take the Job if I don't have Time?" I was just a bout begged too....and my commitment is to the Clubs structure of forming active committee's and allowing them to do their jobs. The members need to run this club as it is the members club. That being said, it the sole purpose for joining is to get in free and not be and active member, that is fine. That is another discussion that is happening about definitions of tiers of membership both commercial and regular. Once that is finalized we will continue to express them in amended by-laws, etc. and YES, we will need help with this.
Enough for now.
I said in the other thread, thy and be a part of the solution, not the problem.
Carl Kmiec
Your New CMAS President
I will give some other info here....Some of my thought process for the $5 admission was to simplify the entry at the beginning of the swap. Let's face it, past swaps the raffle and the entry to the event has been a fiasco due to lack of a little pre-planning. That is part of what this is about, to expedite the chaos at the beginning and not have our participants standing in line for 30 min...they should spend that time spending money at our vendors and buying raffle tickets.
Another reason for the decrease in cost to non-members was a trial thing. There is to be 2500-3000 other people at the venue for other events. Part of the club's mission statement, that I agree with, is to promote the hobby, that is the purpose for the minimal fee for all, and maybe they will be some raffle tickets and make up the difference and get in the hobby if they win a tank, then join the club to learn how to keep the tank alive.
I guess we will see if it works out, but the reasoning behind it is positive, not greedy. This is this boards first event...remember this board started Jan 1, 2013. There is not involvement or help from the past board members that planned past events, so we are learning as we go, cut us a little slack. You will see detailed financials at minimum quarterly, and/or after large events. I could not agree more on the issue of transparency and am surprise I am still a member from lack of it in the past, that is not usually how I roll.
I realize, due to some past issues with the raffle, that the refund to members in raffle tickets don't seem to be much of anything. But, I assure you, not one single decision about how the raffle is to be run has been made, but I want major changes to make it more appealing to everyone. Suggestions welcome, as always. Ideas thrown around.... Separate premium item with entry ticket only-one chance to win for all!....One big Drum for all tickets, not picking to put all your eggs in one basket for premium items-$700 in tickets will more likely get your a whole bunch of purple up and Rod's food! not that that's a bad thing on the Rod's food.
This is where your participation will be appreciated to not have a fiasco and make the raffle more manageable. I am speaking my opinion he and always. I will and would never submit a "Voice from the Board" unless I have brought it to their attention and got a vote on that issue. IMO nobody should be speaking on behalf of the CMAS Board without consulting the whole board. I am not an advocate of censoring in any way...other than personal attacks, slander, liable, etc. I'll take all input, and not take anything personally, and bring it for a group vote....the vote wins and I will back up that decision. This is the best practice I have found that works on NFP organization...and not to brag, but I am involve in quite a few....Ask and I'll submit the list.
So bring on the constructive comments. I can not check all the forums, so your voice is more likely to be heard directly on the CMAS site, so I encourage you to comment their so I don;t need to check multiple forums, as I am involved in a lot of things. "Why take the Job if I don't have Time?" I was just a bout begged too....and my commitment is to the Clubs structure of forming active committee's and allowing them to do their jobs. The members need to run this club as it is the members club. That being said, it the sole purpose for joining is to get in free and not be and active member, that is fine. That is another discussion that is happening about definitions of tiers of membership both commercial and regular. Once that is finalized we will continue to express them in amended by-laws, etc. and YES, we will need help with this.
Enough for now.
I said in the other thread, thy and be a part of the solution, not the problem.
Carl Kmiec
Your New CMAS President
FishBeard
New member
Just a quick reminder for the hobby sellers, we still have a few tables available! I don't want to spoil anything but the vendors list is pretty awesome! Ill be surprised if anyone can't find something to take home from the swap. Please PM me with your email address if you would like additional information about selling at the swap.
FishBeard
New member
:-D LOL! U got it man.
Superman92088
New member
Just picked up something that was donated to the club that will be raffled off at the swap!!!! I dont know if i can share any details yet but you are not going to want to miss this swap!!!!!!!!
KeishaKornbread
Banned
Are we allowed to sell SPS frags? I know that RI doesn't sell them, so there'd be no competition with them.
I don't see why not. They don't sell hard corals....so someone should.
Joe5688
Active member
Are we allowed to sell SPS frags? I know that RI doesn't sell them, so there'd be no competition with them.
wrong thread?
This is the odeum thread lol
KeishaKornbread
Banned
Funlad3
Well-known member
Nope!
William Lutman
Active member
And here are some frag shots of what I am bringing to the CMAS swap
Note to self, stop taking pictures right after you piss them all off by moving them around
Note to self, stop taking pictures right after you piss them all off by moving them around
